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>> ♪ >> i love that sound. that's how this "fox report" this thursday june 27th, 2013. i'm harris faulkner in tonight for shepard smith. i'm going to stop talking, because that's better. >> the o'reilly "factor" is on. tonight -- > -- tensions rising atthe georn martin murder trial. >> you don't think that creepy ass cracker is a racial comment? >> is the prosecution's star witness helping or hurting its case? >> i'm not going to be scrambling jets to get a 29-year-old hacker. >> president obama dismissive of nsa leaker edward snowden who remains on the run, but some top administration officials say the leaker could cost american lives. >> people may die as a canadiens consequence of what this man did.
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>> we'll have a debate. >> i think the inspector general was not forthright. >> the inspector general has questions to answer now. >> now liberals are complaining that the irs put a target on their backs, too, even though the inspector general says that's simply not the case. we'll give you the facts. and senator rand paul will be here to opine about all the issues and scandals facing washington today. >> caution. you are about to enter the no spin zone. "the factor" begins right now. hi. i'm laura ingraham in for bill o'reilly. we want to get strata to the drama unfolding in sanford, florida, where the prosecution's star witness in the george zimmerman murder trial wrapped up her spellbinding testimony. rachel jeantel is the 19-year-old friend on the phone
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with trayvon martin moments before he was shot and killed. testimony she gave yesterday elevated the racial component of the trail after she said that trayvon described zimmerman as a, quote, cracker. today the defense revisited that issue. >> describing the person is what made you think it was racial. >> yes. >> that's because he described him as a creepy ass cracker? >> yes. >> so it was racial, but it was because trayvon martin put race in this. >> no. >> you don't think hats a racial comment? >> no. >> you don't think that creepy ass cracker is a racial comment? >> no. >> not racial? okay. according to jeantel, that's apparently just how people talk. >> my question is, do you recall mr. west asking you that trayvon martin referred to the man that
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was following him as a creepy white cracker? >> yes, sir, sir. >> and to you is that a derogatory or is that the way people speak in your culture, your age group? >> objection. leading. suggesting an answer. >> overruled. >> yes, sir. >> at another point today, the defense grilled jeantel about a letter she had a friend write on her behalf to trayvon martin's parents. >> are you able to read that copy well enough that you can tell us if it's in fact the same letter? >> no. >> are you unable to read that at all? >> some of it. >> can you read any of the words on it? i don't understand cursive. i don't read cursive. >> at times during the course of
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her two days on the stand, rachel jeantel seemed visibly annoyed. her appearance demonstrates just how difficult it is to predict how powerful any given witness' testimony is going to be at trial. jeantel is done testifying for now, but the defense has reserved the right to call her back to the stand. joining us from new york with more on this extraordinary trial is arthur idala and stacy snyder, both criminal defense attorneys. stacy, let's start with you. look, i think people can read this both ways. some people would feel bad for this witness, because she seems a bit at sea a few times. on the other hand, she seems to be really contradicting earlier statements that she made to authorities shortly after this murder. and today she's adding extra details that presumably make it look better for the prosecution. >> yeah. i mean, this witness poses now a
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lot of credibility problems. this is a big score for the defense on two fronts, because these are recent revelations. she's been grilled up and down by law enforcement, by the attorneys, she's been deposed, and not once did she mention the cracker comment. now all of a sudden in court she suddenly inserts this card into the trial. i think the jury can take that to mean she's fabricating her testimony. that's problem wick her credibility. the other problem that rises for the prosecution and helps zimmerman, if the jury decides to believe that trayvon martin actually made that comment, that inserts a racial undertone with his state of mind, and that might add to george zimmerman's self-defense claim, because the jury can infer that trayvon martin was the aggressor. this is a double victory in a way for the defense. we'll see what else comes out to tie it altogether, but this is
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the defense attorney's dream. >> arthur, you can both not be thrilled with her testimony, and think she's changed her testimony, and still believe that mr. zimmerman committed this murder, can you not? i mean, you cannot like her and still think he's guilty. >> absolutely. laura, you cannot predict how your star witness is going to perform on the stand. i will tell you, i am somewhat disappointed in her performance. when you're dealing at this level, the stakes are this high, she's your main witness, i expected more from her, better from her. i expected more and better from the defense attorney in his opening statement. so both sides haven't exactly come with their "a" game according to me. but yes, what you said is dead on. if the defense wants to argue she's telling the truth, use the term cracker, then you have to believe her on that, then you also have to believe trayvon said, "why you following me?," which is a big problem for george zimmerman.
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>> in addition, stacy, she added a comment about that exchange, right, should she overheard. she si said at trial, he said, t are you doing here? initially she said, what are you talking about, when he was referred to, when trayvon said what are you following me, and zimmerman said, what are you talking about? that became more incriminating toward zimmerman when she got on the witness stand. in my mind as a lawyer, that goes to credibility on her part, and her credibility matters. >> 100%. none of these statements are insignificant. the words she's repeating no court as being the testimony, or the last statements of trayvon martin before he was shot, are all extremely relevant to the issue of zimmerman's guilt or
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innocence in this case. and the prosecution, to put a witness up like that, who is giving inconsistent statements, she's testifying like she just dozed off in the library and read a boring book. there's no emotion to it. she's flat. there's something not right with this witness. >> i got to say, arthur, she seemed quite annoyed to me. she was coached to say yes or no, because she got herself into trouble yesterday. the yes or no, sir wasn't all that helpful, even though they tried to make it helpful. i think it came across as, i'm annoyed, why am i here, i'm so mad i had to scrub by twitter account. >> i was a prosecutor in brooklyn in '90s, i did these types of cases with these types of witnesses. in summation, you say, ladies and gentlemen, i washington my star witness was a priest, a nun or rabbi, but that's my star
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witness, and she came in here and was honest. she doesn't want to be here, doesn't want to cooperate with law enforcement, because she's from a different part of the world, and saying cracker doesn't have racist overtones. that's the way she speaks in her world. i ask you to accept her for what she is. >> closing arguments, counselor. thank you so much. we'll have more on the zimmerman murder trial, the issue of have you been e scrubbing the twitter account later on in the show. but next on the rundown as the president continues his wildly expensive trip to africa, problems keep piling up on his desk at home. will he be able to handle them when he gets home? that's up next. migraines mean powerful pain, and when you have a migraine bayer migraine formula, means powerful relief. its triple action formula targets migraines for relief of the tough pain, and symptoms that come with it. try targeted relief with the power of bayer.
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president can't dodge the chaos. today he addressed the steps that he's personally taken, or in this case not taken, to help america get ahold of edward snowden. >> i have not called president shi personally or president putin personally. i shouldn't have to. this is something that is routinely dealt with between law enforcement officials and various countries. >> so what do we make of the chief executive who doesn't want to get his hands dirty? >> joining me is the former ambassador to the u.n. under bill clinton. nancy, the president said he didn't call president xi. it's been said he'd done
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enormous damage to our security, leaking this information out to the public. yet the chinese never called the chinese leader. >> president obama made it clear that snowden's actions are dangerous, reprehensible, and he'll be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. there's no question about it. i think you've got to step back and look at the bigger issue. this segment is of president obama's foreign policy. he's done an enormous amount in the last four years. gotten bin laden, gotten us out of iraq, getting us out of afghanistan, trade and prosperity, working with tough issues that follow him around. he's president. you've got a tough -- russia going in the wrong direction, a growing powerful china, and all these rising powers. he needs to be on that plane. he needs t to be engaging on the big issues, not getting sidetracked. >> right. >> i think he's doing it right. >> the defense official, the highest defense official in
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china today accused america of hypocrisy, complaining about snowden, spying, and so forth because obviously they've learned a lot about what we've been doing. >> that's the last debate that president obama should enter. this is a 29-year-old kid who has a hero complex, however you want to characterize it, who has put our national security at risk. he will end up in jail, there's no question about it. obama is right to let the law enforcement go through their processes. i want to talk about the bigger issues. i mean, what is it that obama should be doing to keep us safe, prosperous and secure? that's exactly what he's doing. he's doing -- >> what he's doing? he's in senegal. how is that keeping us secure? >> there's almost a billion people. that's 1 out of 7 people. there's enormous threats there. >> well, that's been there for five years. >> well, no, it started in 1996. >> no. it's been going on his whole
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term, right? >> well, before that. you've got to address it. you can't ignore africa. >> the chinese have been in africa for decades, right? they've setting up shop for a long time. >> absolutely. we need to get in that game. i'll put an american businessman over a chinese businessman anytime. that's what he's doing, promoting trade, trying to work to build up democracy, keeping america safe and prosperous. i think he's doing the right thing. >> nancy, you ticked off the laundry list of the president's accomplishments, but trying to look at it objectively, and believe me i am trying to look at it objectively, but when it comes to russia, china specifically, do you believe our relationship with both of those countries today is better than it was when barack obama came into office? better. if so, what's your metrics. >> i think it's probably with russia and better with china. china is growing, becoming a
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strategic competitor certainly, but we're engaging them, i think talking to them more, the fracture that the president has a relationship with them, working things out with them. they're trying to move in the right direction in some areas. there's basically a lot of problems left with china on the cyber security issues. they're spying on us, and they cheat on all the world trade issues. we're trying to deepen that relationship there. i think we are. russia is frankly going in the wrong direction, and obama was right to reset the relationship. >> it didn't work. >> i think it is working. >> you just said it didn't work. now it's working? our relationships are probably the worst in 20 years. >> it's frankly security, drawing down our nuclear weapons, trying to push them to deal with us -- >> they don't respect us, they don't respect us. >> obama is taking it head on, which he needs to. >> all right. >> thank you. >> all right, ambassador.
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>> in the unresolved problem segment tonight, after clearing some major hurdles, the senate's immigration reform bill has passed. senator marco rubio, who cowrote the legislation, gave an impassioned plea on the senate floor today. >> for here in america, those who once had no hope will give their kids the chance at a life they always wanted for themselves here in america, generations of unfulfilled dreams will finally come to pass. and that's why i support this
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reform. not just because i believe in immigrants, but because i believe in america even more. >> joining me now from washington with reaction, senator rand paul of kentucky, who of course voted against the measure. ended up getting 68 votes, senator paul, for immigration reform, short of the 70. but your reaction today? >> i've always been in favor of trying to do something to fix immigration. i think we do have problems. we have 10 million people who have come here illegally. we need to figure out how to secure our border, have legal immigration, but i don't think this bill necessarily does it. conservatives in this country, open to immigration reform, but want to see border security first. i don't think this bill quite gets there. >> what's been the reaction, the calls coming into your office, senator paul, from the people of kentucky, who have seen stagnating wages, struggling
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with under and unemployment, many cobbling part-time jobs? >> 80% of our phone calls have been against this immigration reform bill. i would say that people aren't completely against doing something. they're just against something that doesn't secure the border first. >> paul ryan on my radio show last week predicted that we would have, quote, a shortage of workers in the united states in coming years in that -- that that justifies bringing in millions of new workers into this country. senator, with 7.6% unemployment and people saying that they feel like they can't get ahead, you know, marco rubio talked about hopelessness among illegal immigrants, there's a lot of hopelessness out there in middle america. do you believe this line about this shortage of workers that's coming? >> well, the interesting thing is this bill doesn't do anything to fix that. this particular bill limits work visas. a work program is what i'm for.
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if you have a good robust work program you won't get people crossing the border illegally. they will come in legally do this work. i don't think this bill actually fixes that. i think there's some concern -- you know, i saw a statistic today that unemployment for those with a high school degree is only 24%. if you have a college degree, it's about 4%. we do have a lot of blue collar workers we have to be concerned with. >> that leads me to my next question. why are you personally, senator, in favor of bringing in new people to work, even though you voted against this bill, if we have so many americans struggling today? are you one of these people who believes they can't cut it in some of these jobs? >> well, i would say that experience shows, and the farmers tell me in my state and other states, that for hiring people to work in the he would, to pick crops, for that hard work, for $9, $9.50, that when
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they advertise in the paper, they aren't getting american applicants. i'm not aaopposed to a migrant worker program. >> it goes beyond migrant workers to construction workers, people who make more money, and the concern is we'll have an unending flow of cheap labor under this bill, continuing to keep wages low as, of course, the cbo predicted. let's move on to another conversation about where we are in the world right now with foreign policy. how would senator paul then becoming president paul, how would you deal with russia today, given all of our challenges, not only this nsa situation, but across the board with syria, and obviously also with china? how would you deal with it today? >> the most important thing for any president would be we need a constitutional foreign policy. our constitution mandates that congress has a role in this,
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that we don't go to war without the approval of congress. madison was firm in this. he said history demonstrates what -- that the power most likely to go to war is the executive, so they granted that power in the legislature. >> george bush, and i think his brother also, they talked about this strain of isolationism in the gop. i think those comments are directed at people like you, that you want america to retreat in the world, not get -- you know, not have a more robust foreign policy, which also they believe is effective. that's more of the bush wing of the party. >> yeah. nothing could be further from the truth. i'm for engaging the world, for diplomatic relations with the portlandworld, i'm for trading e world, protecting our country against the enemies, but that doesn't mean we get involved in everybody's civil war around the world. those who want to arm the syrian rebels have to overcome two great ironies.
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first they have giving arms to groups allied with al-qaeda, and islamic rebels fighting against christians in this country. i think there's a certain irony there that most americans are not in favor of. >> senator paul, we're almost out of time. michael bloomberg thinks people should be composting. all right? compossession. i know you're a composter. >> me, too. >> so you agree with bloomberg? >> that may be the one area that we do. where we might differ, i'm not for mandatory composting. i'm for voluntary compossession. >composting.>> coming up, we'lla republican holds up to my questioning. and mixed messages from the obama administration on how big a threat the fugitive nsa leaker really is to our country. hope you stay tuned for those reports.. ♪
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tank. we use the face-off for hockey, senator, from minnesota. we had to do that. senator, i've known you for a long time, been friends for a long time, but i got to tell you, this immigration bill, almost 1200 pages, is in the eyes of my listeners across the country, so many conservatives, an unnecessary way to drive a wedge through the conservative movement at a time where people should be unified and, you know, pushing the jobs message, shrinking government. and people are just throwing their hands up, disappointed. >> a lots, laura, are looking at the republican leadership on this bill, on this issue actually, as saving the republican party. right now we have president obama and we have, you know, executive amnesty is what we have. you've got out of this bill the toughest border security measure in history. you could place a border agent every 1,000 feet, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, between
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brownsville, texas, and san diego. we have real border security. we didn't have that before. you have a conservative economist at american action forum talking about the positive economic impact of immigration reform. $900 billion cut in the deficit, growing the economy. laura, i just did a market survey in minnesota, not a poll, but a survey, 1600 people, and one of the things, the defining characteristic that came out of the survey, republicans are most identified by saying no. we had to say no to obamacare. we had to say no to $850 billion surplus that didn't grow an economy, but we've got to do something about immigration reform. voters want us to do that. we're seeing action today. >> so you are the eternal optimist, because conservatives are pessimistic about government, because government screws things up royally, and thank goodness we had conservatives, senator coleman,
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who stood up against obamacare, who wander what was going to happen with tarp, rolling this government forward with government spending, the ridiculous stimulus. i thank the good lord we had people speaking out. >> amen. i agree to that. >> you suddenly think that all these promises that didn't happen in the past are now going to happen with double border fencing, all these agents, when janet napolitano and barack obama are in charge, when chuck schumer wrote most of the bill, senator. you got be kidding me. >> they wrote the security piece and -- >> you think they wrote that bill? >> it was because of them that we got the toughest border security enforcement that you've ever seen, that i've seen. >> you have faith that chuck schumer, dick durbin, janet napolitano, barack obama, their interest is to enforce this border.
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you actually believe that? >> i actually believe we'll see -- owe believe that if we did nothing, we'll have what we have now, which is de facto amnesty. >> we have de jury amnesty. >> what we have now isn't working. this offers the promise of hope. in the bill there are certain triggers that say before you go down this path to citizenship -- which, by the way, is hard-earned, 13 years, 15 years at a minimum -- >> not when hillary is a president. >> well, if we don't do anything, hillary could become president. if we work on this issue, republicans could gain strength in the hispanic community. if we do nothing, we improve the chance for her being president, and that's bad for america. >> you're okay if unemployment goes up over the next 12 years? >> economists say it will help the economy. >> not for the next 12 years.
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cbo says bad news for the regular working people. >> immigration reform -- >> i'll listen to the heritage foundation. >> they don't believe anything that immigrants do anything but being at the bottom. the american dream is about immigrants rising to the top. >> here come the cliches. senator, we appreciate it. next on the rundown, the president brushes off concerns about nsa leaker edward snowden as the secretary of state says at that fugitive could cost american lives. what message should we believe? that debate when we come back. ♪
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it's specific treatment for diabetic nerve pain. to hear more of terry's story, visit lyrica.com. >> in the second unresolved problem segment tonight, nsa leaker edward snowden is still on the loose, successfully avoiding extradition to the u.s. where he faces serious prosecution, but from the mixed messages coming out of the obama administration, you wouldn't know how concerned to be about this situation. >> people may die sass a canadiens of what this man did. it is possible the united states will be attacked because terrorists may now know how to protect themselves in some way or another that they didn't know before. >> no, i'm not going to be scrambling jets to get a 29-year-old hacker. >> joining me now from new york
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with analysis is brook gold stein, an attorney, and director of the law fair project. from los angeles, mark hannah, a democratic political analyst and former john kerry campaign aide. let's talk turkey here about where we are. the president's comment today, a little bit out of sync, don't we think, with what john kerry said? he said someone could die here. >> absolutely 100%. i think it's quite demoralizing of the president of the united states to simply make light of this issue by, you know, calling names, basically calling him a 29-year-old hacker. this is an issue of massive importance. it's already been elevated to an issue of massive importance. the number one reason why president obama shouldn't true pick up the phone and call china and russia because we shouldn't have national security leaks in the first place. the fact of the matter is our system is broken. we've had leak after leak. no one has fixed the dam. it's shameful.
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shameful on the national security apparatus for allowing this to happen. >> i think there are thousands of men and women, loyal, patriotic americans working very hard for our national security within the national security agency, within the cia, all these other agencies, but i do think that brooke points makes a smart point here about, this is a pivotal point in our history where we're being compelled to a new era of transparency. if there's any silver lining at all to this snowden case, we need to reimagine our national security apparatus, what we see as the role of secrecy and privacy. let me point to the setup of this. what was missing from the obama excerpt is that he did say that the work of international law needed to be carried out, that we -- you know, we don't know what the cia is doing behind closed doors, what our diplomats are doing in mid-level, high-level negotiations with our counterparts in other countries. that work needs to get done. the moment it ruins america's
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prestige is when the president has to come out and, you know, the chief executive, the leader of the free world, talk to his counterparts in china and russia. >> i hear you on that. the president was a little flip, though, don't you think? well, i'm not going to send the jets against a 29-year-old hacker. was he hacking or leaking? i'm confused about that. i thought he was a leaker. maybe he hacked too. it was a little flip. i'm just tying this together beyond nsa, which is the big issue. over there in russia, looks like we have no leverage against russia or china. that's where we are right now. >> we have unresolved problems. >> right, right. >> brooke, we have unresolved problems, we don't know what happened the night of benghazi. we still don't have anyone in custody after what happened in benghazi. we had photos. i think we know a couple of the people that were there. we don't know where all these witnesses went.
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so we just don't seem to have a handle on this stuff. to me it looks like sheer incompetence. >> our credibility has been completely destroyed. the notion we were going to use as mark said these appropriate legal channels to somehow convince china and russia to turn over snowden i think was naive in the first place. why should they turn him over? if a chinese dissident showed up at our doorstep with this information, do you think we would hand him over? we wouldn't. >> i think that happened recently. >> guys, out of time. brooke and mark, thank you so much. sorry about that. directly ahead, now liberals are saying they were unfairly scrutinized by the irs, but the inspector general says he hasn't seen evidence of that. we'll tell you what's really going on when we return.
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>> tonight after chilling evidence about the irs's abuse of targeting of tea party groups during the last election cycle, some liberals are trying to claim that conservatives weren't the only victims of that practice. >> half of the story has been told, i think, for very political reasons. and that is to make conservative groups feel as though they are the only ones receiving this heightened scrutiny and treatment, and that somehow it must be orchestrated by the white house. we believe that that's completely false. i believe that some of the testimony has shown that to be untrue. >> but according to the treasury inspector general, who's investigating the scandal, there's no evidence that progressive groups were scrutinized to the same extent that conservative groups were. here now to sort it all out is maddy dipler and tara dadell.
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maddy, let's start with you. progressives are saying both sides got extra scrutiny. you guys made a mountain out of a molehill, get over it. >> right. there's a difference between scrutiny and intimidation. right? that's what we saw with these groups that had names like tea party, liberty. the groups on the right side of things were being asked questions that are no way acceptable questions for the irs to be asking. they were being asked to hand over content of prayers, their facebook posts, their donors revealed. the inspector general said there's no evidence this abuse happened to liberal groups. it's interesting to see democrats say this is a political stunt when an abusive agency went after groups that obviously had to give far more information than is necessary. >> tara? >> you'll get no argument from me that the irs behaved badly. there's a history of the irs behaving badly. certain people within the irs.
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i don't want to demonize the whole organization. the reality is if you look at who got the tax exempt status, 2/3 more conservative organizations, self-identified, were granted self-identified, granted tax exempt status. 122 from 2010 to june of 2012 got tax exempt status. 48 groups that identify themselves as liberal got tax exempt status. the one organization denied tax exempt status was a liberal women's organization. that was denied. >> same thing, though, right. >> had to be worse, getting denied. >> this doesn't count all of the applications delayed. >> that's what i was going to say. a couple women on my show say th been delayed well over a year and a lot of groups gave up and said forget it, we can't do this.
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and didn't get involved. left, right, center, you have a legitimate reason to be a 501 c 3, you should be able to do so. if not, your voice is diminished in the public square. let's talk about the irs getting a billion dollars more in funding fix all of this. >> that's the idea. we throw more money at this problem and it will solve the incompetency. the basis of it, maybe if it wasn't malfeasance. everyone was targeted this way, lethargy on the part of the irs to say we're not going to process these applications either way. a billion dollars for people who don't want to get the job done the first time doesn't seem a great way to fix the problem. >> i can't even imagine democrats saying they should get a billion more. given all of the parties, credit cardses for porn, and all of these other little scandals that
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popped up over the irs, a billion dollars? >> a billion here -- i'm just joking. no. in all seriousness, i think we are in difficult economic times, so a billion dollars is obviously a very big ask. i think the gentleman who has taken over the irs, werfel, doing an amazing job, because this information is getting out there. we all can agree we want transparency. >> i think a lot of republicans are flaming werfel. they actually want a report from him, detailing he finds no political biases. >> there is a criminal investigation going on right now by the fbi. >> that doesn't stop him from writing a civil report and why he concludes that politics wasn't involved. that's an outstanding question. we'll see. ladies, thank you so much. more from the george zimmerman murder trial as the defense tries to undo the prosecution's star witness. we'll play the tape in a few moments. how can you get back pain relief that lasts up to 16 hours?
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in "the back of the book" segment tonight, the prosecution's star witness in the george zimmerman murder trial, rachel jeantel, was back on the stand and done west tried to chip away at her credibility as she described her phone call with martin moments before he was heard. >> the last thing you heard some kind of noise like something hitting somebody? >> and trayvon got hit. trayvon got hit. >> you don't know that, do you? >> no. >> you don't know that trayvon got hit. >> because he had -- >> you don't know that trayvon didn't at that moment take his fist and drive it into george zimmerman's face. >> please lower your voice. >> do you? >> no, sir. >> jeantel's credibility has
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been an issuer since she admitted to lying to get out of going out of the hospital. her twitter feed has been scrubbed of questionable posts. joining us is a former florida circuit court judge and host of judge alex, who has been following the case. judge, this witness is problematic for a number of reasons. shifting testimony, cob flikting statements, and things she said to place in initial reports and she testifies in a way that makes it look more incriminating for mr. zimmerman at trial. you honed in on something else that was revealed during trial. what was it? >> she revealed the fact that the first time she was interviewed by the police, we're talking well over a month after the incident occurred, she was picked up by the police who brought along trayvon's mother and trayvon mother's lawyer, mr. crump and took her to trayvon's mother's house. this is an eyewitness or ear
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witness to the crime. never heard of a situation where police in investigating a murder go pick up a critical witness or any witness for that matter and then take her and sit her down right next to the mother of the victim and interview her to find out what she knows. it completely taints the investigation. a natural tendency to want to please the victim's mother and you just -- i don't know why they would ever do that, i really question that. >> now, an all-female jury in this case. is it possible some of the jurors might think she was badgered or bullied by the defense attorney here because she is obviously maybe not the most sophisticated person? >> anything is possible. in a courtroom, that's what happens. anybody who has been in a courtroom, anybody who has seen even the jodi arias case, when she took the stand, she grilled her. cross-examination is supposed to be rough.
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but do -- does the jury necessarily take it that way? we don't know. the jury could be looking at her and said this woman changed her testimony so many times. she said trayvon approached george zimmerman or spoke to george zimmerman and said why are you following me? and zimmerman said what are you doing here? and that's initially after she said zimmerman said what are you talking about? the jury may say we can't believe her. but then again, they might. they may believe what she says. >> some of the things on the twitter page, the "n" word. referred to the lawyers for mr. zimmerman as -- pejorative, i can say it. sexually suggestive poses, photos, which were also scrubbed. kind of makes you wonder also from a -- a prosecution point of view, wouldn't you have kind of urged her to do that a long time
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ago? >> they might have. >> why is she doing it like yesterday? >> they might have look, the prosecution is dealt the witnesses they are dealt. they don't control that. more dangerous and more damaging to the prosecution's case, when she revealed the racial slurs that came out of trayvon's mouth, the prosecution is trying to imply the racist is george zimmerman. >> might go the other way. she said that wasn't really racist, not pejorative. just the way they talk. judge, thanks so much. that is it for us tonight. before we go, bill would like to remind you, if you buy any one of his three best selling books on billoreilly.com, he will make $1 donation to the fisher house for each book sold. and to join my podcast, radio show or books, go to lauraingram.com. thank you for watching. i'm laura ingraham in for bill
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o'reilly. please remember, the spin stops right here, because we're always looking out for you. welcome to "hannity." tonight, full coverage of the george zimmerman murder trial and we'll hear from our law enforcement experts as they break down details of the investigation. first, today marked day four of the trial, and the prosecution's so-called star witness returned to the stand for the second straight day, grilled we the defense. rachel jeantel revealed she changed her national story about what she heard during the cell phone conversation on the night of the shooting and also admitted she lied under oath. take a lock at the highlights. >> those facts included you saying that mr. zimmerman said what you doingar

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